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Poster: user unknown Date: Nov 11, 2008 3:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

Hey "spaced" since you decided to "attack" me, let me clarify my position.

"First stop the falg waving"

I am no Republican f-l-a-g waver. And there was no political intent in my post.

"All too often we fall into the rut of complacency and fail to notice the things around us that are truly important."

I was speaking of the myriad freedoms enjoyed here in the U.S. that are denied to many people of the world.

"The Republicans have not put country first and have failed soldiers by cutting benefits and starting wars on false pretenses. The US won't even supply proper armor for vehicles and soldiers!"

You will get no argument from me on the stated facts. However, with these facts being common knowledge there are still those that feel the call to serve. Some may serve for "wrong" reasons, but it is not really my place to judge that.

"While it still is a nice country, the economy is built on the backs of the poor around the world and IN the US."

Again, I cannot argue with your facts. I will add that the economic foundation of most countries is "the backs of the poor". Of course "poor" is a relative term. I have personally seen conditions that make" project housing" look mansion-like.

"To claim that travesties in the treatment of servicemen is over is just not true"

The travesty I spoke of may have occurred "before your time". Or you may have been one of the perpetrators of that travesty. I don't think there are many people meeting returning troops today spitting on them and welcoming them home with chants of "baby killer". At least publically, current returning soldiers seem to be met with open arms and thank you's. Admittedly they are not being treated properly by the "powers that be", but that is a different issue.

"It is never a waste of time to thank a veteran."

Especially on Veterans Day.

"It is a waste of time to thank the unrepentant."

Agreed. But would you withhold thanks from the deserving because of the actions of a few rogues?



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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 11, 2008 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful to the Veterens

>>>"It is a waste of time to thank the unrepentant."

Agreed. But would you withhold thanks from the deserving because of the actions of a few rogues?>>>

No. Mistakes are forgivable, or else I'm in real trouble.

The Vietnam War was no more valid than the latest war on Iraq. Both were built on lies, so I can see the trouble people would have being involved.

Veterans of such wars deserve care as much as ones of the other wars. I don't thing that the huge military budget really does them justice.

I went to the Vietnam War Memorial unaware of what it was when it first opened. You walk down gradually until you underground; seeing your reflection except where the names are is spooky enough without statues and glorifications. Very sobering.